[jak Swift]

Morning , I couldn’t sleep knowing this was wrong.
Apologies, I tried to convey a phonetic method for working out rhythms on the go.
Better you just download the sheets, its been too long.
Not to worry, I hope you get the jist….
Safe & Happy week….jak

[jak Swift]

5.30 am….and its still wrong.
Finally…crotchet, doted crotchet, quaver ( RPT )
quaver, two semi quavers tied to crotchet….
two semi quavers tied to dotted crotchet….
Goodnight !! LOL !!

[jak Swift]

So, without software, drum machine just memory. I’m determined to make this rhythmically correct. Its been a long long time since I’ve had to do this. To say I’m rusty would be an understatement.

I’m going to use the ” old terms” ( crotchet , quaver, etc ) rather than the more modern system of whole note, half note ( minim ), quarter note ( crotchet ) etc.
My timing was off.
Here goes….
Crotchet crotchet, quaver, crotchet, quaver over bar line to quaver, quaver two semi quavers, quaver tied to crotchet, two semi quavers, quaver tied to dotted crotchet….
I’m doing this lying on the bed just tapping my feet to keep time….and…..
Is it right ?? Judging from the glances at the sheets, probably not. Does it make sense ?
If I were scribbling it down as a template, to a song I already know; i would have to say I’d be happy with it. Sure, its a lot easier to download the sheets; go out and buy them. Its a good mental exercise in phonetic rhythm.

Ta Ta ti ta aa ti ta ( flat a sound ) ti fe tee ti fe tee ee

Shine on you crazy diamond….( ba ba bah ).
Thanks Jeff; I hope this makes sense. Apologies for working it out on the fly; but yeah; a great exercise in speaking out the rhythm.
Remembering the lines , spaces, ledger lines is not difficult. Its the rhythm that gets us most. This phonetic method we learned at college. You can make a set of flash cards. Each card has a note, a rest. Increasing in difficulty, you turn over the cards in time to a metronome; speaking the rhythms out loud.
Its an awfully long time since I’ve done this. Again, its a template that makes phonetic sense. For the simplest route, yeah download the dots. Thanks for your time. It took a while but I hope you are getting a sense of what I’m trying to convey.
Have a great evening..,
NB….No triplets. ( again its been a long time; hope it makes sense !!

[jak Swift]

Well, I just took a look at the various sheet downloads. Musescore do a ” kinda”…..
Various others do lean toward a minim based structure. Hey….I tried my best. The important thing is that you keep at it Jeff…
Nice one !!

[jak Swift]

Quaver \ triplet….( diamond ). AAAGHHH !!!!
LOL !!

[jak Swift]

That was an afternoon well spent. Apologies once more for the error. The chorus ” shine on ” is crotchet: dotted crotchet \ quaver ( x2 )…..shine on you crazy \\ crotchet \ triplet…( diamond ).

[jak Swift]

Your most welcome Jeff. Scratch the minim \ quaver. Totally wrong !! Dotted crotchet \ quaver…my apologies !!

[jak Swift]

Dependant on how it is written, the shine on could be a half note ( minim ); followed by a eighth note ( quaver ) etc. I’m going by feel.

[jak Swift]

NB. I personally wouldn’t tongue the ” you “.
But that swaying rhythm is most important.
PHEW !!!

[jak Swift]

OK, I’ve given it a couple of listens and will try my best here.
Firstly Jeff, well done for choosing a great tune.
It really is not an easy tune to pull off; which brings me to my first point.
If you could construct even the most basic backing track; just a keyboard holding down the changes and providing the root bass note of each change, it would be a great help.
Any tune with lyrics…rule number one.
KNOW THE LYRICS !!!!!!!

1. Your tone is coming on great Jeff. At the risk of boring repetition, blow THROUGH THE HORN, breathing from the diaphragm, pushing from the pelvic floor. That will make the hook…..” Shine on you crazy diamond ” soar. That’s exactly what it needs to do. The ” shine ” needs that push. Its sounding tentative. No worries man, its a first take.

2. No real issues. The mid range, sounds great. The upper and lower notes; again, a trifle tentative. In tune, but again needing more ” warm air ”

3. This is where the keyboard, and either a click track, or metronome would be a great help. Pulling off ” a capella ” saxophone, is tremendously difficult. I play ” still crazy ” by Paul Simon ” a capella “. Again ; knowing the words, the story its telling is vital. For it to flow in a rhythmic sense will come in time. I’m not sure where to put this, but , I would ease off on the tounging ( sic ) a little. Shine on you cr ( tounged)…. then Diamond could come as the D tongued, and then it should fall; second syllable toungued. ( when the diamond is finished; there are three lower notes. I don’t have an instrument to hand, but I’m sure you can hear them.

4. This is very difficult. Essentially listen to the Floyd track, and you will hear the rising and falling cadences. Starts off pretty quietly…
” remember when you were young ”
” you shone like the sun”….build up a dynamic.
Diaphragm push….” SHINE ON ( in four four…1\2 )
You ( offbeat )CRAA AA ( 3\4) zy ( offbeat).
DI I A MOND ( baa ba ba baa ). I can kind of visualise it written with the emphasis on the D.
I’m going no further there as I’m pretty sure it would be a falling triplet, followed by another ( those three lower notes, I mentioned ). You have the dots Jeff, it would be interesting to know if I’m right.

5. For a first effort. Fabulous Jeff. An overall conclusion. RELAX !! Don’t clip the notes. Remember that slow 4\4 pulse, and literally sway with that pulse…side to to side. Its most certainly coming man. Well done , keep at it !!

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