is this another manufacturing gimmick to milk sax players

[Anonymous]

http://www.sax.co.uk/klangbogen-by-reedgeek-brushed-matte-brass.ir

[jake]

It sure makes one wonder??? Something I’ve never seen. The players of old never used any of this stuff and they sounded fine! Maybe they can sell it to the people that think it can be a shortcut to sounding great. Nothing is going to beat the practice time we must put in to get a nice tone/sound!!
Grab some of Johnny’s courses if people haven’t yet. Guaranteed results at a fraction of the price! 🙂

[Z]

I’ve only seen one video of a player using this device and it looks really cool! The sound was very different with and without it. The quality of the video wasn’t great but there was a clear difference in the sound. I’d be interested in trying this to see what it sounded like.

[Michael]

Sorry to drop the bomb on this one, but this thing is for real. I recently have seen/heard one of these used with by Instructor and heard it with my own eyes/ears. It’s not a gimmick to milk people. The difference was astounding, from the low notes to the high notes, the sound projecting out of the Sax was cleaner, whole, fat, richer, it was what I would describe as ‘piercing’ in the Altissimo register. My Instructor is now endorsing it with his students, which includes me. This may sound like just a bunch of mumbo-jumbo, but how many people will go out and pop out $700 on a Theo Wanne with the goal to get as good as of a sound as possible? It only cost $65 and they come in different finishes, all which gives the Sax a different sound. You can also experiment with different pin positions, experiment with putting it lower/higher on your sax, etc.. I saw a demo of the brass model, which is only $60–$5 less than all other models they carry. I can tell you personally in hearing this for myself with my own ears, the difference in the sound projecting out of the Sax with and without this on is like night and day. It is certainly much more affordable option to get a bigger sound than buying a Theo Wanne, plus you have the added benefit of not having to change your current MP. All of the best players in the world have always maintained an open mind and were willing to try new things. Here’s a link from Reed Geek’s Website with some info about this thing:
http://reedgeekwear.bigcartel.com/product/the-reedgeek-klangbogen-bore-reed-stabilizer
http://www.reedgeek.com/klangbogen/

[Anonymous]

Michael, I have to wonder why the sax manufacturers don’t redesign, to increase the mass of the neck fastening mechanism part. That would have the same effect without having the protruding parts. Perhaps to do it properly it would end up looking like a modern compound bow with rods and counterweights.

Have you had a look at the Akai EWI’s? I can buy one here for about $450, but it wouldn’t actually be a sax would it!
Now that I can get a decent sound out of my Tenor it has become my favourite, as I can play it for four hours without getting a sore lip.

[Z]

I just ordered one. I’ll try and make a video of it as soon as it comes, but I have no idea when that will be. I ordered it directly through ReedGeek. This thing is just really interesting to me and I figured why not try it!

[Michael]

Very cool Amminn, good for you to keep an open mind. I’m quite positive you’ll notice the differences with and without it. Where I really heard the differences in the demo, to my ears, was when you let loose. I haven’t personally tried one yet, so coming from someone who heard/saw a demo v.s. using it personally like you’re going to, you may have different insights/hear things different than I did. The Altissimo notes seemed even louder and what I described as more “piercing” and the lower notes had a sound that projected even lower. The entire range of the Sax just sounded much better. There’s 3 pins on the Klangbogen, so you’ll need to experiment with the different pin positions, higher/lower positions once you put it on your sax, etc.. The thing about it is that you already sounded great to begin with, so it’s not like you needed the Klangbogen to sound good, as if you won’t sound good without it, right? LOL That would be a big mistake to think like that. Your tone comes from you, but just like any great MP, reed, etc.. you’ll find the Klangbogen to be just one of those little things that can ‘compliment, enhance’ your sound. Little things can make big differences 🙂 Let us know how you get along with it; my Instructor told us Reed Geek is very quick to respond to orders because he’s endorsing the Klangbogen, so I don’t think it will be very long before you have it. He’s not a paid endorser, he’s an endorser in the sense of using it in his own playing and encouraging others to give it a try.

[Z]

Klangbogen just arrived a little bit ago and it doesn’t fit on my tenor because the lyre spot where you’re supposed to put the klangbogen is in a different spot on my tenor, so it wouldn’t be able to fit on at all; shame. I will try it on my alto as soon as I get my reeds that I ordered a while ago (I lost the fibracell that I had been using so I had to order more). Once those come, I will see how it works on the alto.

[Michael]

Ammin,
You need to call up the Manager Mauro at Reed Geek and he’ll get you the size of the pins that you need. This size of the Lyre slot can be different from one Sax to the next. Just let him know what make/model of Tenor/Alto Sax you’re using and he’ll take care of it for you. His business phone number is (775) 392-1110. e-mail is reedgeek@gmail.com

[jake]

Mine didn’t fit my tenor either. The head of the pin that slides through the lyre was a touch too big. I ended up trimming it up a little on my bench grinder and then it fit in there. Like Michael said, give Mauro a call. I did, very nice guy to talk to. He is sending me a couple different pins to try out for it. He also sent me various pictures of the lyre and different positions. Good luck with it.
This thing isn’t gonna change your sound but rather provide stability in the extreme registers (from what I’m told). I’d like to know the physics behind it. How does this thing work? I mean it attaches to the lyre pin and sits freely on the sax. How is this providing stability?? It isn’t going into the sax or anything like that.

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