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  • November 29, 2021 at 1:48 pm #107960
    RockinRobin
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      Thanks SX poet

      November 29, 2021 at 1:54 pm #107962
      john
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        as for counting the last beat of the 1st bar which has an 8th with a 16th then a dotted 8th…it’s hard to explain in writing so just listen to how the lyric goes;
        “so this-is xmas” the word “so” gets the 1st 8th note, the word “this” gets the 16th note, and the word “is” gets the dotted 8th.

        now if you listen to how I played it or listen to Lennon singing it, it will make sense….I hope!

        November 29, 2021 at 2:18 pm #107966
        RockinRobin
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          So the dot adds another quarter note or beat. Thanks Johnny.

          November 29, 2021 at 2:29 pm #107967
          Anonymous

            to be precise the dot adds on half the value worked out.

            1/8 + 1/16 + dotted 1/8
            say the word

            less-ter-shire or Da-D-Dah and swing it
            so-this-is

            November 29, 2021 at 2:36 pm #107968
            RockinRobin
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              Thanks Johnny

              November 29, 2021 at 11:05 pm #107989
              john
              Keymaster

                ultimately you want to count a 12/8 bar in 4; 1,2,3,4
                so there’s 3 counts before the first note is played; 1,2,3 so-this-is-xmas

                November 30, 2021 at 3:43 am #107993
                Pete
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                  That sounds a bit easier John, getting worried then!

                  November 30, 2021 at 10:25 am #108000
                  john
                  Keymaster

                    when you’re comfortable reading compound time the goal is still to count in 4.
                    each group of 3 8th notes is a quarter beat.
                    if we were to write the song out in 4/4 almost every beat would be a triplet and that would be silly so hence compound time.
                    the triplet feel is constant but we can (and should) still count in 4/4

                    November 30, 2021 at 12:55 pm #108012
                    Anonymous

                      Compound time is used a lot to swing a tune.

                      If you listen to music in 6/4 time you play a straight 1 2 3 4 5 6 ex just like you would play a Major C scale.

                      In compound time ex 6/8 time
                      if you played 1 2 3 4 5 6 what you would do is play the 1 and the 4 a lot louder than the 2,3,5,6 notes.
                      What you want is swinging movement back and forth between the 1 and 4, so the whole idea is set the metronome to play 2 beats to the bar (ie set it to 2/4).

                      If you need to play more compound time music, it is worth practicing a major scale in compound time
                      go up c-d-e f-g-a b-c-d e-f-g a-b-c go down c-b-a g-f-e d-c-b a-g-f e-d-c

                      play the 1st note of each triplet loud and softer on the 2nd and 3rd notes.

                      It’s a completely different way to play a major scale

                      November 30, 2021 at 1:09 pm #108014
                      Anonymous

                        a good 6/8 marching tune,
                        look at the music sheet and listen to how the triplets are played and the various combination of notes in each group

                        ex the groups of (1/4 and 1/8 notes), groups of (three 1/8 notes) etc

                        https://www.8notes.com/scores/24526.asp

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