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  • May 23, 2022 at 8:00 pm #111162
    RockinRobin
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      I’m playing around with “Europa”. Johnny wrote that the song is in A minor. c d e f g A minor, a pure minor, the Aeolian mode.In stead of just playing the melody notes I’ll try to mix in some modes, and Themes.FIRST THREE Chords are Am7 Dm7 G7. Looks like a ii-V-i to me. So where would I enter my first modal scale? Maybe at the first G7 chord eg. half rest 8th rest E A B C B..A E G F.E G FFF MODE F-G-A-B-C—-C-B-A-G-F
      WILLIAM

      May 24, 2022 at 9:04 am #111166
      RockinRobin
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        What comes first? The melody or the chords, chord progression? Do the chords come from the melody notes?
        William

        May 24, 2022 at 9:34 am #111167
        saxomonica
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          Hi William:

          What comes first? The melody or the chords, chord progression?

          Says Dr Google –

          https://www.howmusicreallyworks.com/Pages_Chapter_6/6_1.html

          What comes first? The melody or the chords, chord progression?

          Says Dr Google

          Chords or Melody, What Comes First?

          Finally, one for the modal alto players –

          https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AWt5CUghmo8

          May 24, 2022 at 10:44 am #111170
          saxomonica
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            May 24, 2022 at 10:45 am #111171
            RockinRobin
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              Explanation Too complicated. Santana’s “Europa”. Lots of ii-v-i’s. What came first. the chord progression or the melody?
              William

              May 24, 2022 at 10:53 am #111172
              RockinRobin
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                Ya, I’ve been watching Johnny’s video of Europa. I have the music and I have the music with chords in Am7 etc. ii-v-i. Johnny did a music graft of Am7 and Gm7 showing Theme 1 and Theme 1A, Theme 2 theme 2 A. How does this apply to “Europa”
                William

                May 24, 2022 at 3:24 pm #111175
                john
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                  where did you see that theme 1 and theme 1a?

                  May 24, 2022 at 4:15 pm #111176
                  RockinRobin
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                    Hi John,
                    That theme 1 and theme 1A was with another Theme thing you were showing us that went with “What Does It Take”. The page with CHORDAL and MODAL. THE TENOR SOLO related to What Does It Take. Regarding your Europa sheet music I plan to go down an octave where you play the high octaves. I can play around with sheet music patterns, e.g. Am7 – Dm7 -G7 seems to be a 2-5-1. I’m just studying the sheet music without just playing the melody notes.
                    I have the sheet music with the chord changes in A minor. With the Europa sheet music when is it Chordal and when is it Modal?
                    William

                    May 25, 2022 at 12:38 am #111177
                    saxomonica
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                      Hi William,

                      Which came first?
                      A chicken and an egg are lying in bed. The egg is frowning and looking annoyed, and the chicken is smoking a cigarette with a big smile on its face. The egg says, “Well, I guess we answered that question.”

                      Says Wikipedia:
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_(Earth%27s_Cry_Heaven%27s_Smile)

                      Mark

                      See –

                      (Check out around the 9 minute mark for notes / scale etc / actually whole video is pretty good and well worth watching but hope it’s not to complicated 🙂 )
                      Good luck

                      May 25, 2022 at 9:15 pm #111187
                      saxomonica
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                        Another great rendition here too, guys!! 🙂

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